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#70 Nice Guys

Posted May 1st, 2008 by Justin · 68 Comments
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http://www.asian-central.com/stuffasianpeoplelike/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/george.hotelling.net/90percent/20020803151259.jpegTo celebrate the big 7-0 post, I’m going to write about Asian Nice Guys. You know who they are … If you’re an Asian gal, then you’re probably smirking because not just a few come to mind. And guys, if you’re a nice guy by birth like me, then you’ve probably found yourself hating your life at some point or another.

Asian guys have heard girls toss around these types of comments every so often: “Oh, Tim, he’s such a nice guy” (so this is alright, still hopeful, he’s on her good side, still no flat-out rejection)Yeah, Johnny, he’s so nice…I only like him as a friend.” (this might hurt a bit because he’s been led on to think otherwise) “Oh Yeah, Lee’s definitely got the Nice Guy Syndrome.” Okay, so now according to girls, some Asian guys have a sickly illness that causes them to only “want to be friends” and place a post-it in big words across their forehead: NICE GUY. Some guys can take that fact and move on, but others will definitely hold a reasonable amount of grudge year after year.

According to “The Modern Man,” A Nice Guy is:

- Is nervous around women
- Is shy in social situations
- Is intimidated by women and feels like he needs to impress them
- Doesn’t know what to say to women (usually linked into trying to impress women)
- Is too nice to women, like he would be to his grandmother
- Calls women too often, not allowing them to miss him
- Tells women that he has ‘feelings’ for them too early
- Behaves submissively or weakly around women
- Tends to accept a woman’s demands, just so she will spend time with him or continue talking to him
- Becomes a ‘doormat’ for women and puts his own needs aside
- Listens to all of woman’s problems and discusses them in the way her girlfriends would
- Gives away his power to women, and allows women to become the ‘boss’
- Always seems to ask women what they want to do, instead of being a man and taking the lead

The unfortunate thing is that many of these characteristics come with the Asian culture, values, and customs: being passive, non-confrontational, indecisive, humble, modest, etc… which is the opposite from what modern girls are looking for: a leader, confident, smooth, one who speaks his mind, and not to leave out tall and masculine. Thus, you’ll find more often Asian guys quickly being tossed in the Nice Guys “tissue box” and used to the max whenever a girl needs a shoulder to cry on, whenever she wants to feel accepted, or whenever she needs to be picked up from the airport. You name it… But never in her right mind, will she consider him for a boyfriend. Or if she gives him a chance in the relationship, it sucks to find that she was never serious about him in the first place. She just needed someone for the time being but will eventually run off with a Bad Guy.

Okay, you’ve been there and done that. So what now? Many people say opposites attract. An Asian Nice Guy could possibly be attracted to a girl who will make decisions for him also known as bossy or controlling, putting himself at risk of being taking advantage of (to the max again I might add). This might work for some. Asian Nice Guys oftentimes put themselves in a bad situation by being too infatuated with pretty girls. When he deems Girl A to be attractive, he will do anything for her which includes not even noticing that she’s nice *ahem, flirty* to all guys. These guys will also be led on by many girls finding, ultimately, that it was nothing. This can’t be good either.

Asian Nice Guys can also end up with girls who have learned it the hard way that they actually need someone who will care for them and raise a good family aka “settle down.” Asian Nice Guys need to know how to protect themselves because they can’t expect girl A or girl B to look out for them even if she looks like an angel or seems to be nice at the time. But in rare cases, he will run into a nice, genuine, sweet, and smart girl (pretty or not) who will not take advantage of him and appreciates all the things he does for her. If you’re a nice guy, then don’t freak out when the time comes. Be yourself. There’s no need for you to pretend to be tough, hard to get, something you’re definitely not. Learn how to speak up for your own needs and know your personal boundaries. And most importantly, run after the damn girl and never take her for granted! Looks can be deceiving and painful, but sweet girls last and bring out the best in you. Trial and error and learn for yourself what works. Good luck!

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  • 1 sy88 // May 1, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Haha, what is this, a session for consoling all the guys that happen to fall under this category? Seems like you’ve known me all my life…

    Oh, and please don’t tell me someone’s gonna do a piece on “submissive girls” because that’d be a bit awkward…

  • 2 Ica // May 2, 2008 at 1:27 am

    dont wanna sound racist or anything…but the asian nice guy is NOT attractive. i have this colleague at work (asian, of course) everybody says he likes me, he said he likes me (not to my face of course). but he never asks me out. he knows my phone number, my email, my IM, etc, but he never talks to me. for the love of god, man..ask me aout already! since i dont wanna waste time waiting for him, i went out with a guy who did ask me out, who incidentally was not asian. he turned out to be a jerk, tho. so, my conclusion is the best combo would be a nice guy who has some backbone.

  • 3 sy88 // May 2, 2008 at 7:39 am

    ^^Gee Ica, that’s the thing with girls. I don’t know how you feel about this Asian “nice guy” but if you like him as well, why don’t you ask him out if you know he doesn’t have the balls to do it…

    That’s what I have a problem with, are we still expected to follow designated gender roles, where the male HAS to always be chasing the girl, and is always expected to make the first move? It seems very rarely that it happens the other way around, with the girl openly chasing the guy… Don’t tell me that the “guy chasing the girl” is the only way relationships can be formed. I’m a big advocate of gender equality and equal rights between sexes, but it’ll never work properly if we retain these antiquated views.

    Besides, I’m batting for the Asian “nice guys” POV here…

  • 4 Amy // May 2, 2008 at 7:53 am

    well, i haven’t read all of this yet. Will do tomorrow. But Shaun, very well said! I share the same view about who should ask whom out. I find it silly that girls demand all these gender equality stuff yet still waits for a guy to ask them out. I mean maybe I wouldn’t tell him “Wanna go out?” in the face like that because that’s a bit brash. But I’d definitely send LOTS of signals, or even find a way to ask subtly.

    Oh, and don’t get me started on the thing with “HE has to propose”. I’m seriously over this particular rant, one that I’ve heard way too many times from beloved gf’s, “Oh why the hell hasn’t my bf of 5 years proposed yet? I’m giving him an unspoken ultimatum, if he doesn’t propose by next month I’ll move out!” UGH! I’m sorry, I’m a girl too but i’m finding it very hard to sympathize. =P

    Oops, sorry that was very off the topic. :)

  • 5 sy88 // May 2, 2008 at 8:28 am

    ^^Cheers Amy. I’m still hoping no one’s gonna come out and say “You only mentioned that nonsense about gender equality because you’re single and struggling to get a girl”, and I’ll be like “Yeah that sounds about right…”

    And I also agree on the proposal point. Gee, if the girl wants to get married so much, why doesn’t she propose to her boyfriend, instead of waiting? We’re not in the middle-ages people! It’s not that uncommon nowadays…

  • 6 stuff // May 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Being nice is a pain because it is perceived as weak , fake being a thug then girls will respect you.

  • 7 CrashnTrash // May 2, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    I so agree with sy88 I think that the chances are higher if either gender takes the initiative in approaching the oppsite sex. Stuff i have to disagree I think being Nice doesnt potray a man being “weak” in fact it can result in positive results, just being who you are will go a long way for the person then pretending to be something whos he really is not.

  • 8 hrhkat // May 2, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    It kids of sucks to be an asian guy when it comes to girls and even work. if your a nice asian guy but not very attractive, you wont do well with ladys until your 35, if your a hot asian guy who is cocky and smart, you wont do well at work, because it will make white guys feel bad, if your a nice asian whos ugly, you will do better at work because people will trust you, if your a hot asain guy whos cocky you will do better with girls, if your nice and hot your still might not be great with girls…..its a catch 22…im surprised hot asain actors havent gotten more oscars, because to pull off that act you have to be a great actor

  • 9 solong // May 2, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    haha this reminds me of the wong fu series: http://youtube.com/view_play_list?p=30553DA912FF3742 =]

  • 10 Jun // May 3, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    Waaaa who’s the dude with posing with the camera?

  • 11 Justin // May 3, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    a bad guy. jk =) thanks for all your comments =D

  • 12 baboon // May 4, 2008 at 6:39 am

    Isn’t this topic overdue? Ways too many articles on this!! I have a gf but I treat her like very nice sometime…not all the time..since she’s too shy and I want her to woman up a bit. I pretty much make all the decisions and she doesn’t have a lot to say, which kinda irritates me. I like an independent girl that knows what she wants. I definitely fits the nice guy + jerk haha you need a little of both to get the ladiesss.

  • 13 Aoede // May 5, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    D:

    But nice guys are. Nice.

    Confused.

  • 14 Ray // May 6, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Lol…sometimes I feel like I’m living my life as a Stereotype…I admit I am a Nice guy…I’m guess being a first generation immigrant, I’ve really entrenched in some of my native culture, but I really have trouble with girls here in America…I try to show them respect, and be polite, but they seem to take it as a sign that I’m gay, or that I’m not interested…I also seem to alienate a lot of the girls in my Highschool because I’m in all the honors classes, and put more focus on studying and being easy going, then being on the party scene…lol…I see myself eventually getting a girlfriend…Someday…far away…in a magic castle in the sky…where guys don’t have to be bad ass to get the girls, and I won’t be designated into the GBF (Gay Best Friend) role that happens to me with the current girls I’m interested in.

  • 15 Giun // May 7, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Haha, so true. Thanks for the post, quite insightful.

  • 16 baboon // May 7, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Looks can change…easily…like you put your effort in getting good grades at school. I’ve been there and done it so it is possible. Being a nice guy is what keeps the girl…then why don’t we just work on our looks to get their attention first?? Its pretty simple.

  • 17 Ica // May 8, 2008 at 2:55 am

    the comments about gender equality made me feel i have to defend my self. i actually did tell a guy (white guy, oh golly the stereotype!) that i like him. but he didnt like me back. and my last boyfriend was someone i asked out first. so if you think i’m a shrinking violet, i’m not. i just think that in all fairness, if you like someone first, then you should be responsible for making the first move regardless of whether you are XX or XY. and i didn’t find him interesting enough to make the first move on.

  • 18 Maggie // May 10, 2008 at 4:16 am

    Hmmm… how about the nice asian girl? I’m wondering if there is an entry about this…. I do and kind of fit some of the stuff…. and well I dunno, about the making the first move…. well it really depends on the person, coz I think I am a shy and such type of person and so am a little old-fashioned too in that i wait…. =\ probably not good but anyways. I dunno if thsi is like making ANY sense but hopefully? heh…

    And with the pigeon-holing of Gay Best Friend… from the umm, ahem few guys I’ve really liked and ummm befreinded… it seems that I’m piegon holed as ‘just a friend’ T_T so I guess being nice and friendly and such in general isn’t a good thin gon both gender ends?

    I also have no idea the point of this but that I kind of relate… and it may not be just the guys that is pigeon holed as a nice guy who don’t get anywhere…. maybe the nice people just need to alter and tweak their ummm opposite-sex attraction & getting a little to like “get” them…? Or just be entirely and really upfront..

    /shrug. Game of Love…. confusing, complicated and oh-so-much work. *sigh*

  • 19 shee // May 10, 2008 at 4:39 am

    u know why nice guys isnt noticed and set aside in the tissue box? coz they arent good looking enough. simple like that.

  • 20 shee // May 10, 2008 at 4:41 am

    but maybe if he is nice enough, the girl might see him for a gem he is but most cases are too nice = borringgg.
    btw, nice guys are aplenty. truly good guys are rarity. the difference about nice and truly good guys are. nice guys are nice to you but a good man treats everyone with respect. including the waiter.

  • 21 Diamondsarenotawoman'sbestfriend // May 10, 2008 at 9:12 am

    I have to agree with Amy and Ica on the whole who asks who out/propose. I’m an asian girl and when i like someone I tell the person I like them. And I am planning on proposing to my boyfriend when the time comes. I don’t like the whole sexist business but i have to admit it’s nice to be submissive sometimes and not be ‘criticized’ for being so(c.f. to a guy). It so happens my bf is a nice asian guy who ticks the boxes you’ve pointed out. I definitely support nice asian guys!

    Yes there should definitely be a nice asian girl post too. :)

  • 22 penny // May 25, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    That’s Daniel Henney! I think. He’s so hot…incidentally, he plays a nice guy in the k-drama I saw him in :P

  • 23 Andrew // May 27, 2008 at 11:05 am

    I’ve dealt with SOOOOO many guys at college that fall into that category. It’s prevalent in all ethnicities, but seems to be more common amongst Asians. The guys are the type that think if they hang around girls a lot and be supernice around them that some day the girl will finally come to him. I’ve had to tell the type time and time again to just take some initiative and muster up some confidence because 0.001% of any type of women find that attractive.

  • 24 Linda Chen // Jun 10, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    ok, girls. we already have too much “eye enlargement” “bleached blond hair ” “tits enlargement” “make up with whiter skin tone” scandals. why are we here giving out our man are too shy to date? If a shy guy who is muscular and handsome , for me, he is a big turn on! If you look too fake to be asian, then you should learn how to ask a nice asian man out.

  • 25 Charles Yang // Jun 13, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    Perhaps it’s the other way around – Asian women are really mean and stuck up.

  • 26 Ray // Jun 23, 2008 at 5:10 am

    whyyyyyy. This is so sad because it’s true for me. i feel extremely uncomfortable when i sense a woman trying to take charge. So I try and correct that early. i can put a check on some of that, but damn; i can’t have a woman control me, no matter how much i respect and love them for just being women. i’m not the playboy type either, but damn. A man has still got to be a man. I take the lead, but I’ll delegate the lead to a girl, and only if I want her to take it.

  • 27 Ray // Jun 23, 2008 at 5:12 am

    by the way, post 26,27 ray is different from post 14. Whoever that Ray is, he’s probably the twin brother i never knew i had. uncanny…

  • 28 cteagirl // Jul 6, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    nice guys are just… guys who aren’t that cute. They COULD look cute with a makeover of hair and clothes and attitude, but they are usually so humble and quiet and don’t take the time or effort to put it on.

    I mean, come on!! we girls doll up for the world, why can’t you guys make an effort instead of complaining? i always fell for the “bad boy” b/c we want a leader, confident, and… COOL… only when we get older do we realize we want a nice guy. But in the interim, let’s get real— it’s about the bad boy or at least, the image of the bad boy.

    you can be a nice guy, no problem, just doll yourself up like a bad boy would (he takes is his time in perfecting his image), and learn some confidence.

    nice guys, don’t complain if you havent made the effort.

  • 29 Zen // Jul 15, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    @ Penny, post #22:

    That looks like Dennis Oh, not Daniel Henney.

  • 30 Anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Mm I luv nice azn guys, but as errone already said, they don’t have balls to do anything. I mean I lovvve to take things slow, but cum on now!? they take foooorever to ask u out. By dat time another guy already won my heart. I would choose nice guy over ghetto guys but some how i always end up w/ ghetto ppl, juz cuz dere more straightforward n more lyk a man.

  • 31 sy88 // Aug 2, 2008 at 9:05 am

    ahh, now i get it! :)

  • 32 AsianKitty_ox // Aug 27, 2008 at 6:43 am

    Asian nice guys can only be friends or slaves. haha joking! But yeah this is so true. I’ve never actually got with one because they’re so shy x3

  • 33 maggie // Sep 9, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    yeah…
    this sounds a lot like wongfu’s just a nice guy.
    lol like really similar…

  • 34 john // Sep 11, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Well, crikey, golly gosh OMG and tickle me pink!!! I’ve finally figured out just who I am!
    It all makes sense to me now! Thanks guys!
    I’m an ‘nice’ asian guy trapped in a athletic aussie caucausion guy’s body!! Thank goodness that there are plenty of superficial girls out there, both asian and australian, that see past my ‘niceness’ and just see me for the sex object that I am, otherwise I’d still be a 40 year old virgin! Have a nice day!

  • 35 Liz // Sep 23, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    I love nice nice Asian guys, and I feel bad the boys that think they should change in order to attract women. They may not have all the luck in the beginning, but eventually a nice guy should find someone that genuinely appreciates him. Not all women want a ‘bad boy’… I find bad boys extremely unattractive whether they’re physically good looking or not

  • 36 John // Sep 23, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    God bless you ‘Liz’ (or r u ‘divine bamboo?’) You are diamond amongst the rocks! Are u sure you haven’t taken a knock to the head? This is the most intelligent, logical and rationale opinion from the opposite sex I have heard in a long time! Here’s hope for the nice guys!

  • 37 maki // Oct 16, 2008 at 7:11 am

    yea, well, im attracted to all sorts of guys, thankfully, but it would be nice for someone else to ask me out.
    guys have to know that some girls *cough cough, me*, are as shy as the nice asian guy.
    i think that the person in the relationship who can say things with confidence should say, and the other one with less security should just try.
    it wont hurt
    most times…

  • 38 kc // Nov 1, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    I think asian guys who are a little shy are sometimes really attractive. But sometimes the whole problem comes when you start talking to them, and the whole “nice” thing gets to be too much. They’re too nice sometimes that it makes girls uncomfortable… it’s hard to explain i guess. Just don’t buy the whole girls like guys who are “totally nice” thing. Be nice, be respectful, just don’t seem like you’re desperate or overly nice.

  • 39 June // Nov 2, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I think Asian nice guys are adorable. Of course, I’d rather have a more confident guy… but being a gentleman is definitely a great plus. Just lose the nerdy haircuts and glasses maybe?

    And I’ve asked a guy out before and it worked out well, but it still feels weird to me and I’d rather the guy ask first.

  • 40 JustMe // Nov 6, 2008 at 11:28 am

    nice guys are creepy

  • 41 Shaun // Nov 6, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    I’ve never said this before, but i will now. Justin you seem to have struck a nerve with the female readers of SAPL – your perspective into the female psyche and opinion of the Asian “nice guy” is just so insightful. If only all of us were as knowledgeable as you as to how women perceive the Asian nice guy. Hmmm… =)

    P.S. I’m just messing…

  • 42 Shaun // Nov 6, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    with you… I meant I’m just messing with you =)

  • 43 tommy // Nov 15, 2008 at 7:01 am

    I feel so ashamed of myself… Honestly i satisfy 8 of the conditions…

  • 44 Lisa // Dec 17, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Reading a lot of the posts on this site just make me think that there’s a lot of Asian guys out there who actually secretly hate Asian girls. See Charles Yang’s comment for one, also the ‘resenting asian girls for dating white guys’ posts.

    Actually, some of it looks like ‘resent women in general because they don’t like me’. What IS it? Were you born with the divine right to have girls like you?

    I really don’t care whether you’re a ‘nice guy’ or ‘bad boy’ as long as you behave well [this applies to both extremes: no selling drugs and bashing people OR stalking me with your bunch of flowers / self-penned song + guitar / making friends with my mother].

    And btw, nice guy syndrome also applies to men of all races, so chin up, it’s not just Asian men!

  • 45 dbals // Jan 8, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    I’ve seen this happen throughout my life – in school, in college, in work. But I guess when it’s time to really settle-down the girls come looking for ‘nice guys’. It’s not just ‘super nice guys’ who are left out in cold, even the ‘gentlemanly’ ones too. For some reason good-looking-girls in school or college always fall for ‘bad guys’,rogues and the ones who doesn’t have any respect for them. Over time they will realize that these guys give a rats ass about her and would dump her for someone better. Then she will come around looking for you. Is that good? No. By that time she would’ve been around a lot (overused) and just acts as if she loves and respects you. Truth is they just need any ‘shelter’.
    ‘Nice guys’ the moral is, just be yourself and earn atleast the not-so-good-looking-ones’ friendship. Get used to being with these girls and marry them if you like their character. Because life would be much better and easy for you in future than waiting for the good-looking ones to come back.

  • 46 jaz // Feb 4, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    so, why did i end up with the only asian JERK in the world???

  • 47 Ricky // Mar 1, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    lol so true!

    that’s why i converted from the nice asian guy to the asian jerk :P

  • 48 Ghengis Khan // Mar 30, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    “Losing all hope is freedom.”

  • 49 Pee Sou // Sep 4, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    I am a 2nd generation Chinese guy who is skinny but, 6ft, with glasses, but speaks English like a native and is well-presented.

    I may be quietly-spoken and a bit slow to ask women out, but I am not exactly a ‘yes man’ either; I am perfectly capable of making important decisions – this includes moving on from a ‘friendship’ with a woman if there is little sign of progress after a few weeks.

    I live in the UK, but have spent several years living in both the USA and Australia. I seem to observe that in Anglo-Saxon dominated countries (and also Northern Europe), Asian (i.e. Oriental) guys are totally overlooked by Caucasian girls, and sometimes even by Asian girls; principally speaking all that they seem to value is someone who either rich, muscular, good at sports, or a drunkard/druggie.

    I may as well consider emigrating to the Mediterranean or Eastern Europe, where young ladies there still value men of good character.

  • 50 Hi Weily and Liming // Dec 18, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    This post is absolutely useless. It starts on a stereotype, reinforces it with another stereotype
    then ends with a cliche \BE YOURSELF AND KEEP TRYING.\ Gosh, it’s SO true( and the exact same advice as every other non-comedic dating article).

  • 51 BatuKhan // Jan 26, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Asian guys need to stop being so damn nice and start becoming warriors again.

    “The greatest happiness in life is to crush your enemies, to see them scattered before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see their loved ones bathed in tears, and to clasp as your bossom their weeping wives and daughters.” -Genghis Khan, ASIAN MAN

  • 52 Raquel // May 24, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    @sy88, I totally agree with you. I was going to say that myself, but then I saw your post. If you have no doubt in your mind the guy is into you, why not go for it? He might turn out to be the best person to ever come into your life!

    I, personally, love the “Asian nice guy”. I wish I knew some of them! Unfortunately, I don’t meet a lot of Asian men in Texas… And even less that are into black/latina women **shrugs** Ah, well… I know my Donnie Yen, Kang Dong-Won, Takeshi Kaneshiro (well… you get the point) is out there somewhere. Lol.

    Peace and Love.

  • 53 jack // Aug 12, 2010 at 4:11 am

    does any one know the name of the guy in picture ?

  • 54 Naomi // Aug 30, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    But… I like guys like that… The world would be a much colder place without those guys…

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  • 57 twilight guardian // Jan 22, 2011 at 2:34 am

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    Liz // Sep 23, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    “I love nice nice Asian guys, and I feel bad the boys that think they should change in order to attract women. They may not have all the luck in the beginning, but eventually a nice guy should find someone that genuinely appreciates him. Not all women want a ‘bad boy’… I find bad boys extremely unattractive whether they’re physically good looking or not”"
    it has a section call “You can do it water boy”

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    I continue it here below..

    “If you think you’re only worth getting rejected,when you try to ask a girl out ,you’re likely to shake like a blob of warm Jell-o” … this book gets really interesting and I agreed with it .

    a girl in this book said if you lack confidence ,fake it till you make it…..
    I agree with

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  • 64 Vinnie // Mar 28, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    lol it’s funny cause in high school there was this guy who was really shy around girls, and to cover his shyness he pretty much ignored girls or avoided talking with them and stayed with his guy friends… Apparently, the girls perceived him as being ‘cool’. Add that with handsome face, great academics, and above-average height… I swear half of the school’s female population were chasing him! (including myself, who was fortunate enough to be in a same class with him lol)

  • 65 Mr. Duby // Apr 18, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    To all the Asian guys here. Women do NOT care how good you look. You can be deformed and still get the girl if you play your cards right. A woman’s greatest asset is not her mind, but her body and her ability to give you a chance to spread your seed. YOUR greatest asset is your ability to provide for her needs (money, clothes, cars, houses, etc). Though these things are important to getting a girl, it is not the only way. You will have to know the psychological way of putting a woman in her place. Learn from Ron Jeremy. Oh, and penis size doesn’t matter, trust me. Women are stupid.

  • 66 Lily // Mar 26, 2015 at 11:26 am

    Whoever this picture is of is very attractive in my opinion. By the looks of it.

  • 67 Naomi // Oct 1, 2017 at 4:44 am

    Yowsa! I think it’s Dennis Oh.

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